diff --git a/IceBarElement.lua b/IceBarElement.lua
index a74d6ec..66cd12f 100644
--- a/IceBarElement.lua
+++ b/IceBarElement.lua
@@ -739,9 +739,12 @@ function IceBarElement.prototype:UpdateBar(scale, color, alpha)
 	if (self.combat) then
 		self.alpha = self.settings.alphaic
 		self.backgroundAlpha = self.settings.alphaicbg
-	elseif (self.target or self:UseTargetAlpha(scale)) then
+	elseif (self.target) then
 		self.alpha = self.settings.alphaTarget
 		self.backgroundAlpha = self.settings.alphaTargetbg
+	elseif (self:UseTargetAlpha(scale)) then
+		self.alpha = self.settings.alphaNotFull
+		self.backgroundAlpha = self.settings.alphaNotFullbg
 	else
 		self.alpha = self.settings.alphaooc
 		self.backgroundAlpha = self.settings.alphaoocbg
diff --git a/IceCore.lua b/IceCore.lua
index e68b889..1e1e2a5 100644
--- a/IceCore.lua
+++ b/IceCore.lua
@@ -52,10 +52,12 @@ function IceCore.prototype:SetupDefaults()
 		alphaooc = 0.3,
 		alphaic = 0.6,
 		alphaTarget = 0.4,
+		alphaNotFull = 0.4,
 
 		alphaoocbg = 0.2,
 		alphaicbg = 0.3,
 		alphaTargetbg = 0.25,
+		alphaNotFullbg = 0.25,
 		
 		backgroundToggle = false,
 		backgroundColor = {r = 0.5, g = 0.5, b = 0.5},
@@ -253,6 +255,8 @@ function IceCore.prototype:GetAlpha(mode)
 		return self.settings.alphaic
 	elseif (mode == "Target") then
 		return self.settings.alphaTarget
+	elseif (mode == "NotFull") then
+		return self.settings.alphaNotFull
 	else
 		return self.settings.alphaooc
 	end
@@ -262,6 +266,8 @@ function IceCore.prototype:SetAlpha(mode, value)
 		self.settings.alphaic = value
 	elseif (mode == "Target") then
 		self.settings.alphaTarget = value
+	elseif (mode == "NotFull") then
+		self.settings.alphaNotFull = value
 	else
 		self.settings.alphaooc = value
 	end
@@ -274,6 +280,8 @@ function IceCore.prototype:GetAlphaBG(mode)
 		return self.settings.alphaicbg
 	elseif (mode == "Target") then
 		return self.settings.alphaTargetbg
+	elseif (mode == "NotFull") then
+		return self.settings.alphaNotFullbg
 	else
 		return self.settings.alphaoocbg
 	end
@@ -283,6 +291,8 @@ function IceCore.prototype:SetAlphaBG(mode, value)
 		self.settings.alphaicbg = value
 	elseif (mode == "Target") then
 		self.settings.alphaTargetbg = value
+	elseif (mode == "NotFull") then
+		self.settings.alphaNotFullbg = value
 	else
 		self.settings.alphaoocbg = value
 	end
diff --git a/IceElement.lua b/IceElement.lua
index 4089c3b..a231b82 100644
--- a/IceElement.lua
+++ b/IceElement.lua
@@ -215,9 +215,12 @@ function IceElement.prototype:UpdateAlpha()
 	if (self.combat) then
 		self.alpha = self.settings.alphaic
 		self.backgroundAlpha = self.settings.alphaicbg
-	elseif (self.target or self:UseTargetAlpha(scale)) then
+	elseif (self.target) then
 		self.alpha = self.settings.alphaTarget
 		self.backgroundAlpha = self.settings.alphaTargetbg
+	elseif (self:UseTargetAlpha(scale)) then
+		self.alpha = self.settings.alphaNotFull
+		self.backgroundAlpha = self.settings.alphaNotFullbg
 	else
 		self.alpha = self.settings.alphaooc
 		self.backgroundAlpha = self.settings.alphaoocbg
diff --git a/IceHUD.lua b/IceHUD.lua
index 2ccb875..10e61ce 100644
--- a/IceHUD.lua
+++ b/IceHUD.lua
@@ -145,8 +145,8 @@ IceHUD.options =
 
 				alphaTarget = {
 					type = 'range',
-					name = 'Alpha OOC and Target or not Full',
-					desc = 'Bar alpha Out Of Combat with target accuired or bar not full',
+					name = 'Alpha OOC and Target',
+					desc = 'Bar alpha Out Of Combat with target accuired (takes precedence over Not Full)',
 					get = function()
 						return IceHUD.IceCore:GetAlpha("Target")
 					end,
@@ -160,6 +160,23 @@ IceHUD.options =
 					order = 13,
 				},
 
+				alphaNotFull = {
+					type = 'range',
+					name = 'Alpha OOC and not full',
+					desc = 'Bar alpha Out Of Combat with target accuired or bar not full (Target takes precedence over this)',
+					get = function()
+						return IceHUD.IceCore:GetAlpha("NotFull")
+					end,
+					set = function(v)
+						IceHUD.IceCore:SetAlpha("NotFull", v)
+					end,
+					min = 0,
+					max = 1,
+					step = 0.05,
+					isPercent = true,
+					order = 14,
+				},
+
 
 
 				headerAlphaBackgroundBlank = { type = 'header', name = " ", order = 20 },
@@ -205,8 +222,8 @@ IceHUD.options =
 
 				alphaTargetbg = {
 					type = 'range',
-					name = 'BG Alpha OOC and Target or not Full',
-					desc = 'Background alpha for bars OOC and target accuired or bar not full',
+					name = 'BG Alpha OOC and Target',
+					desc = 'Background alpha for bars OOC and target accuired (takes precedence over Not Full)',
 					get = function()
 						return IceHUD.IceCore:GetAlphaBG("Target")
 					end,
@@ -220,6 +237,23 @@ IceHUD.options =
 					order = 23,
 				},
 
+				alphaNotFullbg = {
+					type = 'range',
+					name = 'BG Alpha OOC and not Full',
+					desc = 'Background alpha for bars OOC and bar not full (Target takes precedence over this)',
+					get = function()
+						return IceHUD.IceCore:GetAlphaBG("NotFull")
+					end,
+					set = function(v)
+						IceHUD.IceCore:SetAlphaBG("NotFull", v)
+					end,
+					min = 0,
+					max = 1,
+					step = 0.05,
+					isPercent = true,
+					order = 24,
+				},
+
 
 				headerBarAdvancedBlank = { type = 'header', name = " ", order = 30 },
 				headerBarAdvanced = {
@@ -577,6 +611,8 @@ function IceHUD:OnInitialize()
 	-- Parnic - added /icehudcl to make rock config pick this up
 	self:RegisterChatCommand({"/icehudcl"}, IceHUD.options)
 	self:RegisterChatCommand({ "/icehud" }, IceHUD.slashMenu)
+
+	self:SyncSettingsVersions()
 end
 
 
@@ -605,6 +641,15 @@ function IceHUD:ResetSettings()
 	ReloadUI()
 end
 
+-- add settings changes/updates here so that existing users don't lose their settings
+function IceHUD:SyncSettingsVersions()
+	if not self.IceCore.settings.updatedOocNotFull then
+		self.IceCore.settings.updatedOocNotFull = true
+		self.IceCore.settings.alphaNotFull = self.IceCore.settings.alphaTarget
+		self.IceCore.settings.alphaNotFullbg = self.IceCore.settings.alphaTargetbg
+	end
+end
+
 -- fubar stuff
 IceHUD.OnMenuRequest = IceHUD.options
 IceHUD.hasIcon = "Interface\\Icons\\Spell_Frost_Frost"